The Red Baron
Ti: It wasn’t uncommon for the Baron to ask the uncomfortable questions or assert odd opinions, but most of the time he didn’t really share his thought process with others. He was a man of few words and didn’t particularly enjoy social parties. He was quick to draw conclusions about situations, allowing him to jump quickly into action. When something wasn’t working, he adjusted his method. He was rather detached, but became more feeling as he lost more friends to the war (when traumatized, T types either develop their F function more or devolve into an unhealthy state –the Baron was the former).
Se: The Baron was famed for his skills as a fighter pilot, but he wasn’t just brilliant –he loved to fly. He loved the air and took pleasure in the thrill of the fight. He was relatively fearless in dangerous situations, and hated to be stuck on the ground when there was a fight going on in the air. He was incredibly adaptable to quickly changing situations and tended to improvise moment to moment. He enjoyed affect –to the point of defying army regulation to paint his plane red in order to frighten his enemies.
Ni: He won the majority of his battles by looking ahead to determine whether they were fights he could win, and if they weren’t, he turned away. Though his primary mode was in-the-moment (Se), he was able to visualize specifically what he wanted from the future and the steps he needs to take to get it. The Baron sometimes had a hard time looking at the war in terms of the big picture, but over time, he gradually developed a sense of disillusionment. By the end, he looked at the German role in the war as no better than any other country’s role.
Fe: The Baron was relatively detached from his own feelings, but was often thinking of other people (whether it was by lighting his friend’s cigarettes regularly or replacing items they had lost). Over time, his view of the war changed from one of thrill seeking (Se), to a moral disgust towards the fact that he regularly killed people and felt nothing for it. Much of this change of mind however, was not stirred initially by his own introspection, but by outward influences (a certain nurse).
I’m not going to write individual posts for all the other people involved in his story, but his brother Lothar was an xNTJ
Again, not many pictures, so I borrowed from The Red Baron.
Lothar was definitely an ENTJ or P, though after the war, the T became the F. Lothar was more extroverted than his brother, that’s for sure. Lothar sustained significant stress and trauma during the war and after it (especially with the death of his brother and most of his friends, the end of his marriage and the constant pain from his last wound, which never healed.)
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Interesting… This typing seems to be of Richtofen’s personality as portrayed by the movie ” The Red Baron”, which ( in my opinion ) they somewhat altered from his real life character. I do agree with the typing, but I didn’t appreciate how the filmmakers altered some things about the Baron’s life and personality . While studying Richtofen’s life I came to the conclusion that he was most likely an ISTP , and I was pleasantly surprised to find him typed here, as he is not a very well known figure.
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Yes, that bothered me too.
Most of the evidence I used for this typing came from the movie simply because I figured it would be more familiar to most people, but I also did plenty of research on his life and personality just to be sure.
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Trauma is what I’m most interested in. I have a hunch that it may explain some things.
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How does the development of Fe under stress/trauma differ from development of Fi under trauma? Does it have any bearing when Fe or Fi is inferior or no?
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I could devote entire posts to answering that question, but I can give you a quick summary if you clarify whether you’re talking about stress or trauma. The two are very different things.
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