Lucien Carr: ISFP

 Kill Your Darlings

Lucien Carr ISFP | Kill Your Darlings #MBTI #ISFP

Introverted Feeling (Fi):  Lucien Carr was a rebellious, anti-establishment youth who detested commonality and tradition. Oft times, he was rebellious just for the sake of being differing from the norm, but also to make a statement against living a life that wasn’t your own. “Lu” Carr, as he was known, had a profound influence on everyone with whom he associated, among them, Allan Ginsberg, whom he taught all manner of crass vocabulary. In later years, Carr had an understandable desire to remain anonymous and asked that his name to be removed from the dedication of Ginsberg’s “Howl.” He was an individualist who would rather be himself than try to conform to the vagaries of the society he lived in.

Lucien Carr ISFP | Kill Your Darlings #MBTI #ISFP

Extraverted Sensing (Se): Lucien Carr was an aesthete who valued beauty, be it in word or experience. In his younger years, he was spontaneous and had a hard time following through with commitments and finishing goals he was working towards. As a college student, Carr didn’t focus much on the long term consequences of his in-the-moment decisions (although he pursued long term visions with a passion). Lucien Carr initiated most of the dangerous, illegal outings that the Beat Generation writers were fond of. Carr was well known for using descriptive language, and Ginsberg has compiled lists of the words Carr used to describe certain things (most of them indecorous in subject matter). He is also known for having said that he wanted everything he did to be the “first time.”

Lucien Carr ISFP | Kill Your Darlings #MBTI #ISFP

Introverted Intuition (Ni): Carr was an admirer of Fredrich Nietzsche’s philosophies and enjoyed being able to control the messages that would be gleaned from other people’s artistic work. Though not a writer himself, he came up with the vision and foundational principles for the Beat Generation. He wasn’t a particularly motivated student, but loved learning and sought out ideas avidly. Though Carr was highly creative and loved speak poetically in regular conversation, he preferred reading other people’s creative work to writing it himself.

Lucien Carr ISFP | Kill Your Darlings #MBTI #ISFP

Extraverted Thinking (Te): Carr did not write as part of the Beat Generation, but he organised the participating writers to set them on their course. Much of Carr’s philosophy that fuelled the Beat Generation movement was the idea of “naked self-expression,” or an un-muted truth telling. In his older years, Carr was incredibly successful in the editing world and became the sole member of the Beat Generation to sober up and keep a consistent job.

Editor’s Note: Asserting my English-Major knowledge and going off historical events and Beat Generation writings rather than the portrayal in the movie (although the personality would be the same, just not the totality of behaviour/motives). Your welcome.

7 thoughts on “Lucien Carr: ISFP

  1. Thanks for the warning–I probably won’t read any of his actual work, but now at least I know who he is, in case anybody else mentions him to me.


  2. Poor guy looks like he stayed up way too late . . . way too many times. (Probably he did.)


    • Considering that Carr was the bloke who came up with the Beat Generation writer’s “New Vision,” (“The artist’s consciousness is expanded by derangement of the senses”), your hypothesis is very, very likely true.


      • I enjoy stating the obvious sometimes. :-)

        (Actually, though, I’d never heard of the Beat Generation before–who were they, exactly?)


        • *Dies of shock*

          The Beat Generation was a group of American writers that got together during college and wrote up a rebellious manifesto rebuking the neo-romantic literary being taught in their time period. They spent most of their time not attending their classes at Columbia University, but writing creative fiction and getting high.

          Eventually the lot of them either dropped out of school to write (Jack Kerouac) or were kicked out for what they wrote (Allan Ginsberg). All except Carr continued writing (Carr wasn’t really a writer so much as an avid reader who hated school) and eventually got canonised as amazing literary innovators (much to the unfortunate dismay of their ex-professors).


        • *dials 911 so the EMTs can come and give Arvid CPR*

          I see–thanks for explaining! I think I had maybe heard Alan Ginsberg’s name before, but that’s about it–I’m not familiar with their work at all. I’m a history major, not an English major, so maybe that’s why . . . ? Plus, I focus on immigration history.



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